Thank you for your apology; its accepted.
1. Progress of civil servants, who rise in grades as a block instead of a pyramid. meaning thereby that they were just getting next higher grades/ promotion by a simple rule of years of service put in with complete disregard to annual appraisals/ performance. The maximum punishment for a civil servant is OSD, which means full pay and no job. Also They can go on forced leave any time & yet retain their seniority.
Most of civil servants of DMG group, went on leave, leaving the governement machinery sort of wheel jammed. They also resisted the change in promotion criteria on the basis of performance. Since Musharraf did not have any legal powers to change civil servant's act, he gave in and it was only then that they came back to work.
2. He issued orders for sacking of about 1000 income tax officials. One by one, all of them were reinstated by our honourable courts plus got their accumulated pays back plus got their seniority back. Again Musharraf could not do anything.
As you know, whole system of governement is run by civil servants of DMG and all revenue is controlled by income tax.Once he could not do anything against these two main departments, he could not implement his reforms.
This is just my analysis and obviously I don't know what actually happened, but as I see it, whichever way he wanted to move forward over past 8 years, his reforms were blocked through civilian disobedience means and courts.
He brought in a make-belief democratic governement to address economy as a first step. Now that economy is up & running, I am sure all these ills shall be cured one by one. But first of all we have to correct the justice system.....which has started. I hope & pray that once we have truly consciencious judiciary (Inshaallah) you will see that things will begin to change...which is what we all want.
About the kind of people leading us, I think I have read it some where that God Almighty imposes bad leaders on bad nations....
Islam is not a single person's practice. Its a complete code of life. Unless we have a true Islamic society, we cannot start demanding Islamic culture. It has to come from within. I am sure you must drive around wherever you live. Do you see people pressing other cars against their right of way...that is tarnishing haqooq-ul-Ibad. Can our women walk alone to home in the middle of night? What happens to inheritance of Orphans...reltives eat up money.These are essentials taht we first need to address. We need to find the difference between essentials, preferences & recommendations of Islam. for example
1. Prayers, zakat, human rights, rights of women, are all essentials.
2. Beard, Holiday on Friday etc. may fall in preferences.
3. Keeping shalwar above ankles may fall in recommendations...
So lets first implement essentials and everything else shall automatically follow.
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Dear NRQazi
Similarly if one is not making sense to other, then the other has no option except to call that nonsense.
But really by using those two words, i was never intended to disrespect.
I used these words to your article not to you.
My apologies.
Now once a real wise person told me a very good saying, and i want to share that with you, and i am very hopeful it will make things clearer among us.
"Never see or try to see what muslim is doing, always try to see what Islam is saying"
I am not bothered by the impression, we Muslims have in the world, because i cant start doing the wrongs with the lame excuse that all are doing.
On the day of judgment, i will be judged only by my actions, Allah there wont give any weight to this excuse that all were doing the same, because may be God will return with this answer to me, OK then go with all where they are going.
and one more thing, may be and yes we are at the lowest level of morality now a days, but tell me very frankly will you chose a person, who is liar, who is drinker, who can sell and give any thing for money or for power, who cant bear pressure, who dont have any moral values to guard your home.
I dont think you will choose because i wont chose either.
When we cant chose such a person to guard our home, then how we can chose such a person to guard the nation.
People today are very happy with Musharraf and spending so much efforts to justify him, those people even forget that why and how Musharraf is a ruler of Pakistan.
We all know that he didn't topple Nawaz government for any national issue, he just did to secure his position.
He was happy with Nawaz and we all know under no circumstances, he was willing to do what he did in the end for national interest.
My simple Q, why Musharraf realized that Nawaz is so corrupt after Nawaz tried to sack him.
how suddenly in plane he came to know about all what he said in his first speech.
What ever points you raised in your reply all are valid, but tell me, what good Musharraf did to resolve them?
Musharraf is in absolute power from last 8years, he could have given alot to the nation but he opted other way.
Tell me even if after 8 years, he needed martial law to control the things, which went wrong under his absolute power, then how good he is.
Why should we chose him again, when he failed to deliver any thing in eight years.
No Mr NRQazi, he is the worse for Pakistan and He should not even be considered as an option.
thanks
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Tolerance & rational please!s
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nrqazi)
Replied on (27/Nov/2007)
Dear Noman
First of all, please have tolerance to bear a difference of opinion. Using words like Nonsense & idiot without knowing me, would probably have exactly the opposite effect.
Now about Muslims that we are:
1. have you seen how WE push each other after Juma prayers to get out early and to put our shoes on?
2. Have you seen how we cheat our turns to get to the wuzu area earlier than the person before us?
3. The fruit and vegetables sold outside mosques after juma prayers is all rotten, & highly priced?
4. All those participating in a 'Juloos ' for nifaaz-i-shariaat invariably miss their zuhr prayers.
5. Try getting one small item imported without paying bribe.
6. Try getting a document attested from foreign affairs ministry.
7. Try getting a car registeration or transfer without paying bribe..
8. Ask how all car registration agents carry so expensive mobile sets? & although now mobile calls are very cheap, they were always using them as if they were free even when there were charges on call reception as well.
9. Ask a beverage company delivery vehicle what is the 'rate' of traffic police. a three star constable takes 3 crates of cola at home, a 2 star takes 2 crates and aa one star takes one crate. Ordinary sepahis stop the cola vehicle as they please find a stupid problem with its number plate and do not release it till they get a free of charge drinks crate.
10. I have already narrated what happens in courts.
11. Vice Versa, try getting an illegal document attested, it shall be done failrly easily if you pay the right price.
12. last but not the least, try telling someone to get in queue...
Like I said in my article, we know the kind of Muslims we are. So please leave the religious thoughts out of it.
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replying to your beggar thing
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hamza1234)
Replied on (27/Nov/2007)
our country runs on foriegn aid that does make us beggar internationally
every kid is born with debt and beggary in Pakistan.
we dont have enough wheat for us and that is too from America including all other things...
you what else flows through our viens other then corruption its beggary.
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we are not baggers, we are pro
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Noman)
Replied on (27/Nov/2007)
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I can reply to your all nonsense and desperate attempt to make Musharraf a hero and only true Saviour point by point.
But i dont think it will be of any use.
Because if a person cant understand what damage Emergency or martial law has done to civil society, he will understand any thing.
Even very big lovers of Musharraf turned their back to him after this illegal action.
The SC, dair ayye durust ayye, But all you pro-Musharraf are talking one nonsense only, why CJ was not did any thing earlier.
Why you people cant say that at least he is doing right thing now and we should stand beside him.
Do you know why CJ didn't do anything earlier because he that time he was thinking may be that all Pakistanis are impotent and if one person stood for the right, he will be vanished in no time.
But after 3rd March he felt he was wrong, people are alive in Pakistan and that is why he stand besides them and now people like you are trying to demoralizing him instead of strengthening him.
What a pity.
You draft very good article and tried to convince that Musharraf is new love of west and that is why we need him, so indirectly you are saying any one who is acceptable to west should be acceptable to us as well, because only he will guarantee our survival.
Brother will you tell us, why Iran, Venezuela, Cuba are still on the map of world.
We are not baggers, people like you are trying to create an impression that we are baggers and we need help from west.
But Mr NRQazi, we are not baggers, we are proud Muslims and we have very firm belief that Allah is the only Saviour and he will help us.
But we know Allah will help those who have their firm belief in him.
so i think if you even keep half of the faith in Allah rather then having so much in west, Allah will definitely help us.
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hamza1234)
Replied on (26/Nov/2007)
Your article reflects my views and thouhgts about pakistani politics