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"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity".
(surah Al-Imran,ayat-104)
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User Name: Noman
Full Name: Noman Zafar
User since: 1/Jan/2007
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 Reply:   First of all the article and t
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (17/Jun/2007)

I post the article from one point of view and then put the reply from another point of view which i encountered.
so it is not necessary that i am agree with any one or not.

but i hate MQM's politics there is no doubt about it, u told me bout infrastructure, but you forgot to tell me street crime rate of Karachi, you forgot to tell me the killings and robberies in Karachi, you forgot to tell me why there is so much violence in karachi...

MQM was started for good cause, but now they have converted into monsters.
according to my records the best nazim Karachi got is previous one from Jamat-e-islami.

but i condemn every killing, if you go deep into this site, you will find one article posted by me in the favor of MQM activist, which was killed by police during torture.

i am totally neutral, and just try to bring different point of views in front of people of Pakistan.

but i am sorry if i hurt your feelings
 
 Reply:   Nasir
Replied by(nasir_jhb) Replied on (17/Jun/2007)
Fear Allah my brother as you have lost it completely.

Assalam o Aliakum,

I read your post and got completely angry and furious that you are expelling this sluggish word and events that only took place in your mind, i Asume because of the hateret of MQM that you have in your heart.
I wanna ask you a question. You are soo sad about the killing of 35 innocent people in karachi but its a big shame on you that you didn't raise your voice over the killing of thousands of innocent poeple who were murdered in karachi during an army operation against a political party in karachi during 1992 till 1998. When the pakistan army was masacring the innocent people in karachi, where were you then?
Where was the rest of the pakistan's political parties when all this evil work was being done in karachi by our own Army.
The whole pakistani nation including political parties were criminally ignoring the killing of innocent people of karachi. Aren't the people of karachi Pakistani? then why didn't you raise your voice?
Lets see what you have to say about these things that i'm mentioning here now;
 
Tell me one pakistani political party that is not corrupt?
Tell me which political party of pakistan except one party does not have Wadaira, Jagirdars in them?
Tell me both biggest political parties of pakistan PPP and PML (N) ruled the country twice and what were the outcome of their government?
 
Now let me bring you to the reality if you dare to read the truth.
 
Altaf Hussain is such a evil man because he is against Wadaira, Jagirdars and corrupt people, he is the only pakistani leader who belongs to a middle class family.
 
When the Army was killing innocent people in karachi then the whole pakistan kept quite, but today when Army is supporting MQM, all of you corrupt people are protesting, which is very shamefull.
 
Lets see what MQM has achieved since they came in power.
 
Well to me i'm not a MQM supporter but when i see the developement works been carried out by Haqparast Government in karachi, for the first time in my life i feel to be a proud pakistani. Just go to karachi and face the facts, (which is difficult for you).
See how the infrastructure is being uplifted in karachi. how the 50 years long waited problems of the city are being solved and karachi is on the road to become one of the world's developed city. And who is doing all that (well in the real facts its MQM).
 
They are setting examples to deliver for the nation, i hope the will rule the whole pakistan in the near future. Just compare the other PML or PPP governments with MQM government and see the difference by your self.
 
Or you can choose the other corrupt pakistani parties who only want to do corruption and fill their pockets.
 
Choice is yours
Allah bless Pakistan and Those who are working hard to develop this country.
May Allah's curse be upon those who are willing to stop those who want this country to stand upon its feet.
 
Pakistan Zindabad

 
 Reply:   It's high time to save Pakis
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (30/May/2007)
Mr.Ghulam Mohtaram, presently Home Secretary Sindh is a Bengali. He was made In charge of Military Intelligence when Musharraf came into power.He sent hundreds of MQM criminals abroad;
It's high time to save Pakistan from becoming another BANGLA DESH ?
 
Mr.Ghulam Mohtaram, presently Home Secretary Sindh is a Bengali. He was made In charge of Military Intelligence when Musharraf came into power.He sent hundreds of MQM criminals abroad; interestingly most of them were in various jails.He with connivance of MQM LAWYERS, OFFICIALS, prepared fake passports of all those in jails and sent them abroad on fake names. It's not blame, just took the record of all Sindh jails from 1998 to 2000, and tries to find all prisoners during said period.
After retirement he was rewarded with coveted post of Home Secretary, where he destroyed almost all records on MQM men, issued millions or arms licenses for MQM.
Karachi is becoming a separate state like Israel? Sooner or later and remember East Pakistan debacle? Musharraf, Shaukat Aziz, many Corp Commanders etc   are ignoring MQM activities as Bengali Officials did in past.
 
 
Nawaz Sharif was blamed very bitterly for appointing his brother CM, another Punjabi as President, but what now?   Musharraf ,MQM man from India as said by Benazir Bhutto,Shaukat Aziz  another MQM man from India, Vice Chief of Army Staff Ahsan Salim Hayat another Urdu Speaker, Seven Corps Commanders have been said to belong MQM, more than 27 Federal secretaries are from MQM ,with fake domiciles of Punjab.Sindh Goveror ,well known for drilling the bodies of innocent Pathabns, Punjabis, Sindhis, Seraikis and Balochis ,is from MQM.
 
If you probe in detail 2% MQM ruling 98% innocent people of Sindh, Punjab, NWFP and Balochistan with the connivance of SPNIELESS OPPOSTUNISTS OF ALL THESE PROVINCES.
 
 
Just read voices from across the world :
 
1.                   Can't just understand how the enlightened people can tolerate the sight of Altaf Husain and his style of speech. I think he should now take up MERSIA GOI and lead Majalis e Anza.
 
2.             Mr. Hussain says he lives in London because he fears he would be assassinated
if he went back to Pakistan.
3.                   Opposition parties say that much of the violence was orchestrated by the
MQM's leadership in London. They allege that the party called its supporters
out onto the streets to defend President Musharraf's decision to suspend the
country's Chief Justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry.
4.                   The MQM - which is allied to President Musharraf's supporters in the
Pakistani parliament - is alleged to have mobilised a large body of
supporters to prevent the chief justice from leaving the airport when he
visited Karachi on Saturday.
5.                   Behaving like an injured Cobra MQM has threatened Munir Malik, President, and Pakistan Bar Council that if returned to Karachi, he will be killed. Munir Malik's house was strafed 2 days before arrival of Chief Justice to Karachi ie.12th may. Munir's family have already moved to some un-known place. Munir's Sister Dr.Saeeda Malik , a minister in Sind Government is quite helpless and more intereted in keeping the ministry than her brother and his family's safety.
6.                   This house strongly condemns the non-compliance of the Sindh High Court orders to bring the chief justice of Pakistan safely fro Airport to the premises of Sindh High Court with due protocol. We demand that the contempt of court proceedings be initiated against the governor and the Chief Minster of Sindh, and the advisor of home affairs, home secretary and Inspector General of Sindh Police.
The bastard Interior Minister Sindh has accused the Saviour of Karachi Gen.Naseer ullah Babar of having killed 15000 young MQM boys of Karachi in extra judicial attacks. When Karachi was bleeding and every month more than 100 target killing were carried out by Altaf Husain the biggest Bastard, ugly faced terrorist and the bodies were foung in Gunny bags with drill holes in thier Torture Cells, gen.baber cleaned up the city and only 94 people, all known murderers were killed in Police encounters. The proof is that Karachi became liveable again till the 12t of may 2007 when Musharraf Backed MQM carried out the carnage. Laanat. The biggest policy idealogue in karachi is Adil Siddiqui and his underling Shoai Bokhari. Ishrat ul Ibad and Farooq Sattar are still better as individuals.
Now MQM is not a party of poor or Middle class. They are all Rich , living in KDA, Defence and Clifton. Altaf bhai cant coe back to live in 70 s.Yd home as he is now used to so much Luxury with Rolls Royces Fleet and a chain of Houses in London  visiting Casinos every night and putting hundreds of thousand pounds on the tables. Some say that this was he whitens the money he recieves from Pakistan every week.
Subject: MQM Organisation Structure: Can the politics of militancy give way to
 politics of peace.


MQM Organisation Chart
 
ISI
 
 provides overall policy, support, weapons and guidance
 
 
 
London Based British Citizen
 
Altaf Hussain
 
Responsible for
 
1.         Receipt and deposit of daily Bhatta from Karachi
 
2.         Planning murder of high profile persons (MD KESC, Hakim Saeed etc)
 
3.         Making melodramatic speeches with obscene sound effects.
 
Gen. Pervez Musharraf
 
1.      Being A tool of  MQM
2.      Using MQM for staying in power
 
Ishrat ul Ibad
 
British citizen , accused of criminal acts and recipient of and British Social Security,  Front man for MQM in Sindh.  Provides security and support to criminal activities using the cover of Governor House
 
MQM Ministers, MNAs, Senators
 
Responsible for local planning and execution based on the following  administrative  divisions
 
A.          Bhatta Collection Squad.
 
B.          Container confiscation and road blocking  squad.
 
C.         Killer squad (Reports directly to Altaf Hussain for major killings and to local ministers for small time killings)
 
D.         Sector incharge ( All  Police  SHOs report to respective  Sector Incharges)
7.                    
Dear Brother, A0A,
Please join hands with JUSTICE and reject Kalashinkov,you are in KARACHI or away from KARACHI,ask everyone in your contact to join hands with JUSTICE,its time to reject Terroris,Bhatta Mafia,Killings, Bodybags,kidnappings.
 
 
MQM having ball of a time now by arranging rent a crowd in favor of Musharraf. MQM getting hefty fee for this service through secret funds. MQM has given a list of 3 dozen of its activists for elimination as they are beyond their control. Such requests in respect of policemen already complied with by Musharraf n co.

--- farooqi sheikh <farooqisheikh@yahoo.com> wrote:
DG ISI Gen.Kyani and Governor Sindh Ishrat ul Ebad have had two meetings with CJ Sindh High Court where he was summoned to meet them. CJ obliged but did not budge to commit to play to the military tune.
ISI officials are making hectic efforts directly or through the friends and relatives of the key members of Judiciary to obtain a favorable judgment to oust the CJ of Pakistan. They still hope to succeed. There is no limit to the money and other tempting deals being offered.
The continuous pressure by Legal and Political community is the only hope. The biggest blow will be from Peoples party if it entered any deals with the Government.
The entry of MQM factor to divide legal fraternity may also be a serious blow to the movement and Altaf
Bhai has demanded a very heavy price to do the dirty job for Musharraf.
The Army Generals, mostly too junior to Musharraf dare not say or suggest anything as are snubbed badly and they fear to be categorized as having germs of rebellion. 
  
The deal between BB and Musharraf entails,

1. Election by present assemblies in uniform. PPP will abstain.
2. Musharraf doffs uniform on 31st Dec. 2007.
3. Next COS Army will be appointed by mutual agreement between Musharraf and BB.
4. Musharraf will facilitate BB's coming to power and patch up with MQM.
5. Govt. will not pursue cases against BB and Asif Ali Zardari.    
 
There is lot more but till Pakistan Army and Musharraf is behind MQM,God too can not do anything? Nauzubillah

 
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