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"Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity".
(surah Al-Imran,ayat-104)
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User Name: sacha_pakistani
Full Name: NAWAZ BHUTTO KHAN
User since: 8/Jun/2007
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 Reply:   who shake hand with whom?scri
Replied by(devilzdushman) Replied on (9/Sep/2007)

I suppose everyone knows.. Feudal system in Pakistan are mostly.. mufaad parast.. and cruel against their own people.. but MQM has to say on 25 September 2002.. IF THE WADERAS AND JAGEERDARS OF SINDH ARE PREPARED TO DISTRIBUTE THEIR LAND AMONGST THE POOR PEASANTS THEN WE ARE PREPARED TO EMBRACE THEM "“ ALTAF HUSSAIN
MQM still sit with these waderas and jageerdars!?.. is our waderaas and jagirdaars so good?? have they turn their land to the people?
 
 Reply:   who shake hand with whom?scri
Replied by(devilzdushman) Replied on (9/Sep/2007)

Hmm.. MQM and PPP dont have strong political support.. but if the govt. + deals come true.. who is gonna sit with whom?.. which betrayal?.. wese political adjustment.. i suppose.. har kisi ne ki hai.. IJI.. ya pher.. in Nawaz era.. MQM-Nawaz pher BB era.. PPP-MQM.. ab MQM-PML-Q..hmm har daur me adjustment.. pher ye MMA and PML-N ka clarify karna k.. no deal with dictatorship.. is the main point!.. dont u think ur thinking too negative??
 
 Reply:   who he is gonna shake hands wi
Replied by(sacha_pakistani) Replied on (9/Sep/2007)
wat abt previous marches against nawaz n benazir

 
 Reply:   U know, if you start putting b
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (9/Sep/2007)

U know, if you start putting blame on Maulaana Fazal Ur rehman instead of Qazi, then may be i will start accepting your logic.
as MMA couldn't deliver, what was expected from them, due to Fazal Ur Rehman
so whatever you said is right for Maulaana not for Qazi.
but as Qazi's party is fighting against MQM in Karachi politically, that is why you always put blame on him.

this is called negative and biased propaganda
 
 Reply:   qazi and MMA BETRAYED islam an
Replied by(sacha_pakistani) Replied on (9/Sep/2007)

political molanas have admitted that they have betrayed people of pakistan in the name of islam and shariat

people know about mufad parast qazi

he can go and shake hands with anYone for his personal benefit, because sab say pehlay QAZI
OR QAZI KEE FITNA JAMATE SHAITANI
 
 Reply:   Yes Man!//shy
Replied by(josh) Replied on (8/Sep/2007)

The reason for creation of Pakistan was Islam, and our government had betrayed Islam.
If the country is fighting aginst its own reason of creation, its own base, then the country has already killed itself as it had destroyed its own reason for existance
But fortunately a lot of us Pakistani still belive in the the reason of creation, Islam
So we can say our country is sevearly injured by its own hands, but still it lives and we all togather had to make it fort of islam again lets start by removing the traitors of islam, country's very own people who are trying to destroy the reason for existance of Pakistan in name of saving it.

Allah Hafiz
 
 Reply:   I am pointing towards governme
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (7/Sep/2007)

"But if we have to be American Ally just to stop the American invasion, then this is a ridiculous".. i dont understand which way you point?"

I am pointing towards government.
As they and their supporters always defend themselves by saying this
1- we had to be on the side of America to save Pakistan

May Be Musharraf has saved Pakistan, but Motto of Pakistan is dead.
As it is no more known as Fort of Islam in muslim world.

But if for the sake of Islam and muslim hood we have to be like Afghanistan. i am very willingly wanting this to happen.

As i want me, my brothers and my Army to fight with Non-muslims not with Muslims, to fight for Islam not with Islam.
 
 Reply:   American invasion..script src
Replied by(devilzdushman) Replied on (7/Sep/2007)
why did we join was or terror?.. Musharaf was warned by American army cheif to send Pakistan to stone age.. who was afraid of American invasion from the starting till now?
"This Afghanistan is the result of American invasion not because of Talibaan."

Offcourse..

"Because in MMA, of course there are many black sheep as well.
But if we have to be American Ally just to stop the American invasion, then this is a ridiculous."

Well.. cant reject any such accusation.. neither can ignore the blacksheep.. but..

.. "But if we have to be American Ally just to stop the American invasion, then this is a ridiculous".. i dont understand which way you point?.. Ermm.. the govt. is a obedient American Ally.. not MMA?.. if u talk about attack on bajaur or attack on waziristan.. who kills its own people in the name of terrorism.. its clear.. and i dont suppose this or anything support the involvement of mma? second.. "everyone knows QAZI and his jamat got how many bombers".. ??.. well at the moment.. from geo.. to everyone knows.. whatever happens.. especially something aiming at army.. it is in retaliation to lalmasjid.. and lalmasjid and mma are not one thing.. neither lalmasjid followd Qazi??.. if i take you back to the days when lalmasjid issue started.. from Maualana Taqi Usmani or Qazi.. they both were rejected by the lalmasjid for any compromise on issue through these people.. please explain your statment? -- "everyone knows QAZI and his jamat got how many bombers".. is it baseless or you say that on some proof??


 
 Reply:   This Afghanistan is the result
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (7/Sep/2007)

This Afghanistan is the result of American invasion not because of Talibaan.
about rest of the things you (muslim_pride) are saying, i have no comments.
Because in MMA, of course there are many black sheep as well.
But if we have to be American Ally just to stop the American invasion, then this is a ridiculous.
 
 Reply:   i totally agree with this arti
Replied by(muslim_pride) Replied on (7/Sep/2007)
QAZI AND HIIS JAMIAT are not contractor of Islam
i live in Peshawar and we are fedup of this MMA, they are eating the province like a woodlice, everyone knows that they got the seats with the help of agencies so that musharaff can get a long stay becuase of MMA.
 
if there will be fair and free elections there will be no MMA and QAZI will be sitting next to nawaz and altaf in LONDON,
 
if MMA is not stopped now we can see afghanistan as an example which will be the future of pakistan allah forbid, that we will be killed by our own people such an example of rawalpindi bombing, everyone knows QAZI and his jamat got how many bombers.
 
 

 
 Reply:   Suicidal attack and its perspe
Replied by(devilzdushman) Replied on (6/Sep/2007)

To all this debate.. i would like to add one thing.. that may change the way people think.. Any religious or political personality(from Qazi to Ayatullah khumeni) supporting suicidal bomb attack.. it is not the suicidal bomb attacks that kill the fellow countrymen of Pakistan either its a bomb attack in a market place or a bomb attack in a mosque.. is prohibited.. but.. any bomb attack during war.. for example.. palestine to iraq to afghanistan to Kashmir.. and if iran goes on war.. those suicidal attack against enemy.. is allowed!.. i read that in a fatwah.. a renowned fatwah.. widely acceptable..
But other then that.. i dont know.. if Qazi.. or any political or non political party.. ever supported these on going suicidal attack in our own country..
And saying that the ongoing suicidal attack or because of the govt.`s failing policy it isnt supporting.. its like saying criminal or born due to poverty.. your not supporting the criminal but your defining their existence as a criminal!

rest.. from my side..
what said and done.. is out of any personal hatred or prejudice!
 
 Reply:   ALL MY FRINED
Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (6/Sep/2007)

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ALLAH HAFIZ
 
 Reply:   And Adnan people are not laugh
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (6/Sep/2007)
;)
in this discussion you can clearly see, all persons are laughing at the person who wrote this article.
about tasub Passandi... i am unable to understand.. why u always put this blame on me ;)

keep on doing that, as this you have inherited from your party Clap
because you have closed your ears, eyes and hearts

every one with little open mind, by open mind i mean, with fair thinking, can see clearly that what ever is going on in Pakistan is the result of pro-American policies, even American themselves has said, Musharraf has gone so far for us that no one else cant even think.

if we stop this blame game for a moment and then try to see Pakistan then i think we will be very clearly seeing Musharraf as no 1 enemy of Pakistan.

in this site you kept on blaming all parties including PPP, but now a days u r not saying anything abt then, because may be now you have realized that may be they will be your allies.

one last word, the thing i dont like about MQM, they dont have any agenda or any moral values, you cant predict about them, you cant stand with them, as you dont know that tomorrow they will be opposing the thing they are standing by today and vice versa.

 
 Reply:   Very Thoughtful devilzdushman
Replied by(josh) Replied on (6/Sep/2007)

I completely agree to your point of view about Bhai Log, as i am from Karachi too

The point is one cannot force his views upon others, if you want to make others belive, make them belive by proper dialogue with proofs, evidences(not false ones), and tolerate counter arguments and ciritics

My friend I dont belive how you portray MQM to never done anything wrong and it represents everybody living in karachi and Qazi is Evil bla bla i just dont belive in it ........... and your attitudes and actions are strenghting my beliefs about MQM and you are welcome to prove me wrong if i m but with truth and reasonable manner

Allah Hafiz
 
 Reply:   Reply
Replied by(devilzdushman) Replied on (6/Sep/2007)


"Reply: Qazi or MQM
Replied by(farhan) Replied on (5-9-2007)
Couple of year’s back the whole country was in peace except Karachi, all the bomb blast was in Karachi. But the day MQM moved out from Sind to other province of Pakistan they have destroyed the peace. Now do the street crime comparison in all the cities of Punjab, Baluchistan and NWFP and you will come to know the reality. They are simply the terrorist and blaming others without any evidence. Everybody knows the truth but I believe this election if happened will open your eyes."

"Reply: REPLY TO ALL OF YOU
Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (6-9-2007)
FARHAN SAHAB,

WO DIN DOR NAHI JUB APP LOG PAKISTAN MAY HONY WALI TALAQ , BACHO KI PAYDAISH KA ILZAM BHI MQM KO DYNGAY KIYON K APP LOGO KI SOUCH HI AYSI HAY"

There seem to be either a gap of communication or a gap of decency.. well.. if when has to claim the involvement of one political party in crime in reply to a blame on a particular person.. and the other has to say it is possible the first person could blame the party he oppose for unlawful parenthood?.. My lord!.. may be guidance to all!! even me!

With all due respect and no offense.. i say this.. as i see people get to their ego or take any comment too personally!! Dear all readers.. i have no idea how many members of this website are inhabitant of Karachi.. but i like to share a talk with a friend who belong to MQM.. he received this sms and he started to laugh.. i asked him about the sms and it was.. "Qazi to Musharaf: My wife gave birth to a boy.. Musharaf to Qazi: Are you going to blame that to MQM as well? ". Other then this.. i have many freind who are in MQM.. in my area and other.. they are all charsi!!.. by chars i mean afheem and chars not cigrate.. and have weapons.. by weapons i certainly dont mean knife.. but i mean guns!! and being my freinds they have offered me.. that if any problem occurs.. i have the back of bhai loags.. well i cannot proof em i wrong or not!!.. if your part of karachi.. you would have an idea.. apart of all said.. people supporting MQM in this website.. have been a defame themselve for their party.. im not accusing anyone.. but if you visit some debate.. you would realize they were often found using foul language to proof what they say..

If you say action speak larger then voice..then these accusations against religious is baseless!! like my adnan brother invited another member to meet a n MQM leader.. as in same case i would like you to meet a religious leader.. belonging to any fiqah! or political party.. Let me tell you.. im not part of any religious party but i sit among these people.. what is fact it is fact!!.. i suppose.. sometime we should things in our own perspective.. not the way.. any poltical pert interpret it!
Allah Hafiz!!
 
 Reply:   Adnan bhai//s
Replied by(josh) Replied on (6/Sep/2007)

Saheb yeh kia baat hoi kay mqm kay leaders say milo phir comments dayna okay let me elaborate

App ka Muhammad Ali Jinnah(quaid-e-azam) kay baray main kia khial hai, yaqeenan acha hoga, kabhi millay ho?

Firoun kay baray main raiyay yaqeenan buri hogi, millay hain kabhi?

Yeh tu chaloo puranay log hain chaloo Bush ki baat karta hon meri raiyay tu kharab hai us kay baray main mila nahi hon us say ap ki raiyay ka pata nahi khair koi na koi tu raiyay hogi na, milao ho kabhi us say?

Aur yar yeh tu waisay bhi thora advance dur hai in terms of media and information portals tu har kisi say inperson milnay ki zaroorat nahi hoti raiyay kaim karnay kay liyay
Koul aur Fael yani harkat aur biyanat say andaza ho jata hai
At least Mashallah say main tu kar layta hon hosakta hai apko diqat paish ati ho......

waisay Imran Khan, Qazi Hussain aur Moulana ghazi Shaeed kay baray main kia comments hai apkay aur kin kin say millay hain yeh bhi batiyay ga ;)
 
 Reply:   REPLY TO ALL OF YOUscript sr
Replied by(ADNAN) Replied on (6/Sep/2007)

NOMAN ; BARY HO JAO BAYTA BARY OR TASUB PASNDI MAY ITNA BHI AAGY MAT BARHO K LOG TUM PAY HANSNY LAGYN
BOM DHAMAKY KO KARACHI BRIDGE SAY COMPER KARHY HO KIYA BAT HAY JUB K HAR BANDA SAMAJ SAKTA HAY YEE DO AALYDA CHIZ HYN OR APP KI ITLA K LYE AARZ HAY WO BRIDGE WAFAQ NAY BANWAYA THA CITY GOVT NAY NAHI MAY SAMAJ RAHA HON BRIDGE KA ZIKAR KAR K APP KIS KO NISHANA BANA CHARHY HYN

FARHAN SAHAB,

WO DIN DOR NAHI JUB APP LOG PAKISTAN MAY HONY WALI TALAQ , BACHO KI PAYDAISH KA ILZAM BHI MQM KO DYNGAY KIYON K APP LOGO KI SOUCH HI AYSI HAY

JOSH

MQM K MPA'Z YA MNA'Z SAY KABI MILNY KA ITIFAQ HOWA HAY APP KA KABI MILNA PHIR COMMENTS DYNA
 
 Reply:   Hain???//shyg
Replied by(josh) Replied on (5/Sep/2007)

Sadar Musharaf kay sath konsi awam hai bhai? han han Israel ki yahoodi awam zaroor hogi, han yeh tu mana paray ga aur han parliment ki himayat han zaroor bhai warna parliment main aksariyat kaisay hoti kalf league aur MQM ki ... no question out of that!
 
 Reply:   Mr Haroon, i am unable to unde
Replied by(webmaster) Replied on (5/Sep/2007)
Waalikum Slaam
Why this has become our habit, instead of criticizing the one who is wrong, we start criticizing the forum.
Please go deeply into the site, then you will come to know,inshahAllah that we are really trying to make Pakistan Better and are trying to clear the mis-conceptions about Islam and Muslims.
But yet as this is voice forum and every one is allowed to present his/her point of view (in certain limits) therefore you will be bale to see difference of opinion or a negative propaganda , and we think that by difference of opinion only, one has a chance to convince other.
Please dont blame us for some one's personal point of view.
thanks
infact this article by some other user is totally opposite.

 
 Reply:   Idiotic Columnscript src=http
Replied by(HaroonBaig) Replied on (5/Sep/2007)

Assalam-o-Alaikum, before reading this column i was thinking dat this website will help to make pakistan better, but i m very sorry to say that you people are becoming the part of international popaganda against Muslims and Islam. There is not a single evidence which can show that any religious group or people are involved in this activity.
For kind information on 2 or 3 years back on 12 Rabiulawal there was a bomb blast in Dawat-e-Islami Programme and also few years back Jamat-ud-Dawa programme was the victom of a bomb blast. The first bomb blast in the history of Pakistan killed almost 10 religious Scholars on 23rd March 1987.
Without having enough knowledge about incident and topic, you are writing column and blaming people. This is just a very irresponsible behaviour from this website.
you are trying to portrait a bad image of Islam and Muslims. plz plz plz open your eyes and stop this.
 
 Reply:   Qazi or MQM//
Replied by(farhan) Replied on (5/Sep/2007)

Couple of year’s back the whole country was in peace except Karachi, all the bomb blast was in Karachi. But the day MQM moved out from Sind to other province of Pakistan they have destroyed the peace. Now do the street crime comparison in all the cities of Punjab, Baluchistan and NWFP and you will come to know the reality. They are simply the terrorist and blaming others without any evidence. Everybody knows the truth but I believe this election if happened will open your eyes.
 
 Reply:   DID your uncle Altaf gave you
Replied by(Noman) Replied on (4/Sep/2007)
where were your comments when bridge fell in Karachi
i didn't hear any word from you on the incident of sher-shah bridge in karchi...?

where all evidence is quite obvious
where all culprits are naked.

but i know, you will never dare to talk about any incident/accident in karachi/Sindh.

we all condemn these bomb blast, but according to my observation these are done by government it self.

otherwise Terrorist in Pakistan are so well that they can attack Pak Army in the cantonment area of Rawalpindi.

if intelligence agencies cant secure themselves then with which face they are claiming to defend Pakistan.

but in short, there is no evidence that this is done by Islamist and my brother, please dont make Islam a party to the war of politics.

do you ever think that just to drag Qazi in every situation, you are defaming Islam and Islam loving people.

please stop this dirty politics, and think about Islam and Pakistan only.
 
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