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May 6 -8, 2011

 

By CONN HALLINAN

According to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director Leon Panetta, the U.S. never informed Pakistan about the operation to assassinate al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Ladin because it thought the Pakistanis could "jeopardize the mission" by tipping off the target.

Maybe, and maybe not. This is, after all, the ground over which the 19th century "Great Game" was played, the essence of which was obfuscation. What you thought you saw or knew was not necessarily what was.

The "official" story is that three CIA helicopters—one for backup—took off from Jalalabad, Afghanistan and flew almost 200 miles to Abbottabad, most of it through Pakistani airspace. Pakistan scrambled jets, but the choppers still managed to land, spend 40 minutes on the ground, and get away.

Is it possible the helicopters really did dodge Pakistani radar? During the Cold War a West German pilot flew undetected through the teeth of the Soviet air defense system and landed his plane in Red Square, so yes. Choppers are slow, but these were stealth varieties and fairly quiet. But at top speed, the Blackhawks would have needed about an hour each way, plus the 40 minutes on the ground. That is a long time to remain undetected, particularly in a town hosting three regiments of the Pakistani Army, plus the Kakul Military Academy, the country's equivalent of West Point. Abbottabad is also 35 miles from the capital, Islamabad, and the region is ringed with anti-aircraft sites.

Still, it is possible, except there is an alternative scenario that not only avoids magical thinking about what choppers can do, but better fits the politics of the moment: that Pakistan's Directorate of Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) knew where Bin Ladin was and fingered him, estimating that his death would accelerate negotiations with the Taliban. Why now? Because for the first time in this long war, U.S. and Pakistani interests coincide.

Gen. Hammad Gul, former head of the ISI, told the Financial Times on May 3 that the ISI knew where he was, but regarded him as "inactive." Writing in the May 5 Guardian (UK), author Tariq Ali says that a "senior" ISI official told him back in 2006 that the spy organization knew where bin Ladin was, but had no intention of arresting him because he was "The goose that laid the golden egg." In short, the hunt for the al-Qaeda leader helped keep the U.S. aid spigot open.

Indeed, bin Ladin may have been under house arrest, which would explain the absence of trained bodyguards. By not allowing the al-Qaeda leader a private militia, the ISI forced him to rely on it for protection. And if they then dropped a dime on him, they knew he would be an easy target. As to why he was killed, not captured, neither the U.S. nor Pakistan wanted him alive, the former because of the judicial nightmare his incarceration would involve, the latter because dead men tell no tales.

As for the denials: the last thing the ISI wants is to be associated with the hit, since it could end up making the organization a target for Pakistan's home-grown Taliban. If the ISI knew, so did the Army, though not necessarily at all levels. Did the Army turn a blind eye to the U.S. choppers? Who knows?

What we do know for certain is that there is a shift in Pakistan and the U.S. with regards to the Afghan war.

On the U.S. side, the war is going badly, and American military and intelligence agencies are openly warring with one another. In December the U.S. intelligence community released a study indicating that progress was minimal and that the 2009 surge of 30,000 troops had produced only tactical successes: "There remains no clear path toward defeating the insurgency." The Pentagon counter-attacked in late April with a report that the surge had been "a strategic defeat for the Taliban," and that the military was making "tangible progress in some really key areas."

It is not an analysis agreed with by our NATO allies, most of which are desperate to get their troops out of what they view as a deepening quagmire. A recent WikiLeak cable quotes Herman Van Rompuy, president of the European Union, saying "No one believes in Afghanistan anymore. But we will give it 2010 to see results." He went on to say Europe was only going along "out of deference to the United States." Translation: NATO support is falling apart.

Recent shifts by the Administration seem to signal that the White House is backing away from the surge and looking for ways to wind down the war. The shift of Gen. David Petraeus to the CIA removes the major U.S. booster of the current counterinsurgency strategy, and moving Panetta to the Defense Department puts a savvy political infighter with strong Democratic Party credentials into the heart of Pentagon. Democrats are overwhelmingly opposed to the war but could never get a hearing from Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, a Republican.

The last major civilian supporter of the war is Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, but Gates, her main ally, will soon be gone, as will Admiral Mike Mullen, head of the Joints Chiefs of Staff. The shuffle at the top is hardly a "night of the long knives," but the White House has essentially eliminated or sidelined those in the administration who pushed for a robust war and long-term occupation.

A surge of sanity? Well, at least some careful poll reading. According to the Associated Press, six in 10 Americans want out of the war. Among Democrats 73 percent want to be out in a year, and a USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 72 percent of Americans want Congress to address an accelerated withdrawal. With the war now costing $8 billion a month, these numbers are hardly a surprise.

Pakistan has long been frustrated with the U.S.'s reluctance to talk to the Taliban, and, from Islamabad's perspective, the war is largely being carried out at their expense. Pakistan has suffered tens of thousands of civilian and military casualties in what most Pakistanis see as an American war, and the country is literally up in arms over the drone attacks.

The Pakistani Army has been deployed in Swat, South Waziristan, and Bajaur, and the U.S. is pressing it to invade North Waziristan. One Pakistani grumbled to the Guardian (UK), "What do they [the U.S.] want us to do? Declare war on our whole country?" For the 30 million Pashtuns in the northwest regions, the Pakistani Army is foreign in language and culture, and Islamabad knows that it will eventually be seen as an outside occupier.

A poll by the New America Foundation and Terror Free Tomorrow of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas in Pakistan's northwest—home and refuge to many of the insurgents fighting in Afghanistan—found some 80 percent oppose the U.S. war on terror, almost nine in every 10 people oppose U.S. attacks on the Taliban, and three quarters oppose the drone attacks.

The bottom line is that Pakistan simply cannot afford to continue the war, particularly as they are still trying to dig themselves out from under last year's massive floods.

In April, Pakistan's top military, intelligence and political leadership decamped to Kabul to meet with the government of Harmid Karzai. The outcome of the talks is secret, but they appear to have emboldened the parties to press the U.S. to start talking. According to Ahmed Rashid, author of "Taliban" and "Descent into Chaos," the White House is moving "the fledgling peace process forward" and will "push to broker an end to the war." This includes dropping "its preconditions that the Taliban sever links with al-Qaeda and accept the Afghan constitution before holding face-to-face talks."

Given that in 2008 the Taliban agreed to not allow any "outside" forces in the country and pledged not to pose a danger to any other country, including those in the West, this demand has already been met. As for the constitution, since it excluded the Taliban it will have to be re-negotiated in any case.

While there appears to be a convergence of interests among the major parties, negotiations promise to be a thorny business.

The Pentagon will resist a major troop drawdown. There is also opposition in Afghanistan, where Tajik, Uzbek, and Hazara minorities are deeply suspicious of the Taliban. The Karzai government also appears split on the talks, although recent cabinet shuffles have removed some of the more anti-Pakistan leaders.

Then there is the Taliban, which is hardly a centralized organization, especially since U.S. drone attacks and night raids have effectively removed more experienced Taliban leaders, leaving younger and more radical fighters in charge. Can Taliban leader Mullah Omar deliver his troops? That is not a given.

Both other insurgent groups—the Haqqani Group and Hizb-i-Islami—have indicated they are open to negotiations, but the Americans will have a hard time sitting down with the Haqqanis. The group has been implicated in the deaths of numerous U.S. and coalition forces. To leave the Haqqani Group out, however, will derail the whole process.

The U.S. would like to exclude Iran, but as Rashid points out, "No peace process in Afghanistan can succeed without Iran's full participation." And then there is India. Pakistan sees Indian involvement in Afghanistan as part of New Delhi's strategy to surround Pakistan, and India accuses Pakistan of harboring terrorists who attack Indian-controlled Kashmir and launched the horrendous 2008 attack on Mumbai that killed 166 people.

Murphy's Law suggests that things are more likely to end in chaos than reasoned diplomacy. But self-interest is a powerful motivator, and all parties, including India, stands to gain something by ending the war. India very much wants to see the 1,050-mile TAPI pipeline built, as it will carry gas from Turkmenistan, through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to Fazilka, India.

A lot is at stake, and if getting the peace process going involved taking out Osama bin Ladin. Well, in the cynical world of the "Great Game," to make an omelet, you have to break eggs.

Back in the Victorian era the British Army marched off singing a song:

We don't want to fight but by jingo if we do
We've got the ships, we've got the men, and we've got the money too

But in the 21st century most our allies' armies don't want to fight, ships are useless in Afghanistan, there aren't enough men, and everyone is broke.

Conn Hallinan can be reached at: ringoanne@sbcglobal.net
 Reply:   Post OBL US Game in Afghanistan by Moin Ansari
Replied by(MoinAnsari) Replied on (9/May/2011)
When Colonel James Abbot named the city after him, he did not imagine that his name would forever be associated with the most wanted man in American history. He is probably turning in his grave that n

When Colonel James Abbot named the city after him, he did not imagine that his name would forever be associated with the most wanted man in American history. He is probably turning in his grave that no American can pronounce the name of his town.

 

This weeks events have shown that Barack Obama is cold hearted calculator. Just one day before the raid, when Seth Meyers joked that OBL was in the Hindu Kush, the poker-faced president laughed hearty¨Cthis after the orders to take out OBL had already been given.

 

OBL is dead, killed in a manner which causes maximum collateral damage to the Pakistani Intelligence Services (ISI) and the Pakistan Army. President Obama¡¯s actions were carefully crafted and meticulously planned. OBL was executed in a consuetude which would create colossal harm for the US propped up government in Islamabad. Both actions are counter productive and don¡¯t make sense. Killing an enemy is logical. Making enemies of friends is illogical. Long term gain has been forfeited for Short term profit. Does the Obama Administration not care for the Zardari Administration. The Pakistani Ambassador to the US (aka the US Ambassador to Pakistan), Mr. Hussain Haqqani was left in the ignominious position of being defensive about the Abbottabad (Aboot-City) affair.

 

President Obama could have spread the goodwill, and shared the success with their Pakistan allies. He chose not to. If the US Commander-in-Chief had been concerned about the leakage of the news, he could have included the Pakistanis after OBL had been executed. He could have used the Pakistani Army to salvage the wreckage and to take away the other high value targets who were present in the compound. However President Obama did not want to share the glory with anyone. He wanted to be seen as strong and as vindictive as the bad-assed Republicans. This Ramboism has catapulted his sagging ratings by 10 points, and many think this Geronimo-slaying raid will surely ensure that he wins the next election. After all when Glenn Beck and Rush Rush Limbaugh salute a Democratic president, the Gods are surely smiling on the man whose middle name is Husein.

The liftoff was picture prefect, the flight was flawless, however the end result remains murky. To use a hackneyed cliche ¡°Houston we have a problem¡°. The most pro-American COAS in the history of Pakistan, General Kayani has been humiliated, and the most pro-American Pakistani president, Mr. Zardari¡¯s ego has been bruised. General Pasha¡¯s reputation has been maligned. All these factors will have a bearing on the future of Afghanistan. The US actions allowed the Bharatis to begin their bluster. In one of the most immature statement uttered by Bharati General, General Singh threatened Nuclear armed Pakistan in one of its darkest hours. The Corp Commanders were compelled to rebut the Bharati rhetoric. All this is not good for Afghanistan or for the American operation. If the Americans did not trust their Pakistani counterparts before, they have now given ample reasons for the Pakistanis not to help the US efforts.

The strategy of targeting OBL and Pakistan signal the new (Petraus) strategy in Afghanistan; the creation of the Afghan National Army; US bases in Kabul and main cities; and leaving the Talibs to control their Pakhtun areas. In a prodigious article written for the Guardian Anatol Lieven (the author of Pakistan: A Hard Country) points out¨Cthis strategy has been tried out before in ¡°Afghanistan in 1989 and the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991¡å. The last time this plan was executed, it was a dismal failure. It was tried by the Soviets, and it failed dramatically. It was also tried by the British with disastrous consequences.

When Israel was withdrawing from occupied territory, it denied Hamas the celebration by publicly killing Rantisi, an old man who was confined to a wheel chair. To deny Hama a victory jubilation it also killed his successor. Thus the retreat was hidden by the trail of blood. The same strategy is being tried in Afghanistan. This is not the Spring of OBL¨Cthis is the summer of withdrawal. President Obama is ready to ¡°declare victory and get out¡±, without being accused of ¡°Cut and Run¡± by the ¡°closet Black Muslim, born in Kenya¡±. The Birther movement died in Abbotabad.

 

While the raid my have bolstered the Democratic fortunes, the fact remains that the Abbotabad raid was conducted for domestic purposes without reflecting on the foreign fallout from Morocco to Bali. Levien is absolutley correct when he says that ¡°The US approach is structured around the needs of US domestic politics and a crude approach to killing terrorists, with very little attention to the realities of Afghanistan or the reasons why many Pashtuns in both Afghanistan and Pakistan support the Taliban¡±.

 

Foreign policy cannot be run on domestic issues. Obama may have slayed the birther-dragon by throwing Osama into the ocean, but the ¡°Deathers¡± led by Cindy Sheehan and a wounded Al-Qaeda may be more harmful to America and Pakistan. For the first time since 2001, both the Pakistanis and those who oppose America seem to have been sequestered in the same camp. The Pakistan Army is stuck in the ignominious position of being betrayed by the very same people for which it has given up 30,000 Pakistani lives. The American thank you for Pakistani blood is public disgrace of their partners. The last sanctions made Pakistan nuclear, and forced it to build bigger and more lethal weapons. The long lasting repercussions of Abbottabad will haunt this and future US presidents.

Lieven says ¡°Unfortunately, everything I know of the Pashtun areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan, as described in my book¡­ suggests to me that the strategy towards which the Obama administration is tending could have disastrous consequences for Afghanistan, Pakistan and the US.¡± Many analysts agree with that assessment. Obama¡¯s imperious actions have not been thought through. He has unleashed events which will haunt future generations. First of all, the hands of the radicals in Pakistan have been strengthened. The PPP has lost face, in a country where losing face means everything. For the Pakhtuns the only answer to this is revenge. They will do this by go all out in support of everyone and anyone who opposes the Americans.

 

President Obama wants to reduce US casualties by reducing the number of US targets in Afghanistan. Obama hopes that targeted killings will prevent the Talib victory obviating the images when the decadent Saigon metamorphosed into the Red Ho Chi Minh City in 1975. President Obama is avoiding negotiations with the Talibs, and thus bypassing the Pakistanis. He hopes to keep US bases in Afghanistan which is opposed by Pakistan, China, Russia and Iran. All see the bases as threats to Tehran, Beijing, Islamabad and Moscow. Already China has voiced support for Pakistan and its Afghan strategy.

 

Obama¡¯s ill-fated Afghan strategy ensures that the Talibs will continue this perpetual war. US air and ground attacks will further push the Pakhtuns into the embrace of the Talibs, and the stealth attack on Abbotabad will possibly resurrect a dying Al-Qaeda. The ability of the Afghan National Army (ANA) to hold cities may be circumspect. It has been unable to defeat the Afghan National Resistance (ANR) even when 100,000 US troops and a 100,000 mercenaries are there to help them. Once the American leave, the ANA will be left to fend for itself. Drone attacks and ariel bombing may not be strong enough to ensure any victory scenarios for the ANA.

 

President Obama seems to be playing by the book¨Cthe Soviet book. The Soviet-backed puppet regime of Najibullah did survive after the Soviets left in 1989 but it did so with the help of the Russians which had bases just across the border. That Afghan state had not gone through 30 years of civil war and carnage. Today¡¯s Afghanistan is ethnically fractured between the Pakhtuns,the Tajiks, and ideologically divided between the conservatives and the liberals. The problem is that America backs the minority Tajiks, while the majority Pakhtun loyalties are with the Talibs. Its just a matter of time that the battle-hardened majority will simply overwhelm the minority concentrated in the Northwest. The US action now ensures unbridled support by the Pakistanis for the Pakhtuns. A Talib victory is inevitable. President Obama has chosen to take the difficult route. Instead of working for long term peace by getting all the parties in a coalition government, the Obama testosterone wants to rush in where angles fear to tread.¡±

 

The Turks, the Pakistanis, the Uzbekistanis, the Iranians and the Tajikstanis have all but worked out a power sharing agreement. The Talib office in Ankara would have been transferred to Kabul¨Cbut for the show of force at the foothills of the Himalayas that allowed the Pakistanis access to the most sophisticated stealth technology.

 

The Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani military are banking on the new equation in Afghanistan, where the Talibs now are not exclusively a Pakhtun force. They have huge numbers of Uzbeks and Tajiks in their ranks. Then IMU (Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan) and the Mujohidini Tojikiston (and other Tajik militant groups) are already cutting NATO supplies and are fully supporting the Talibs in an alliance of mutual interest.

Lieven final hair raising conclusion is food for thought for those who think that the death of Osama will bring victory to the America. ¡°On the other hand, everything I know about Afghanistan, and everything we see in the news about the Kabul regime and its armed forces, tells me that what is certain is that the US strategy sketched above will not work. As to whether the Taliban would agree to such a deal ¨C well, we won¡¯t know that until we¡¯ve asked them.¡±

As the US forces lurch toward certain defeat, the Talib victory is inevitable. This precludes the Bharatis from ever getting a foothold in Afghanistan. A combined Afghan-Pakistan will move towards a Muslim Union the genesis of which has already been laid in the ECO. This comes as close to the Caliphate that OBL wanted. In the final analysis, OBL may have bankrupted the US but he failed to create a caliphate. It is ironic that his death pushes the neighbors into an inevitable Muslim Union.


 
 Reply:   Pakistan Military Knew About Bin Laden Raid Well In Advance Of Attack
Replied by(chaudry) Replied on (8/May/2011)
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By Rick Ungar

May 06, 2011 "
Forbes

 

- - Evidence is now emerging that the Pakistani government and military not only knew of America’s plans to launch an attack on Osama bin Laden’s compound far in advance, but assisted the United States in the effort.

According to GlobalPost, the Pakistan government’s willingness to continue the narrative that they were caught totally by surprise is in response to their fear of a popular backlash among the Pakistani people were they to know that their government and military had helped the Americans execute the raid.

One senior military official, who asked not to be named because he is not permitted to speak to the press, said that Pakistani army troops were in fact providing backup support when the United States began its operations inside the compound where bin Laden had been staying, including sealing off the neighborhood where the compound was located.”

Via Global Post

Adding further support to the notion that Pakistan was in on the mission, a number of local residents have confirmed to the BBC that they were visited by Pakistani army personnel two hours before the attack commenced, ordering them to switch off the lights inside and outside their homes and instructing them to stay indoors until they were informed it was safe to come out.

The report goes on to add-

Gen. David Petraeus paid an extraordinary visit to Islamabad on April 25,” said a senior military official said. The official said Petraeus held a one-on-one meeting with Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Pakistan’s army chief of staff, in which they discussed the details of the operation.

The next day, Pakistan’s top military body — the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee — held its quarterly session, which was attended by Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the country’s intelligence chief, who is not a regular member of the body. Pasha had visited the United States to meet with the head of the Central Intelligence Agency, Leon Panetta, on April 11.”

General Patraeus, who is preparing to take over as CIA Director, has yet to confirm or deny the report.

So, why would the Pakistani government endure the embarrassment and charges of incompetency that have come with appearing not to know the U.S. was conducting a raid on their soil without permission?

To answer the question, it is important to understand the current political environment in the country and the growing displeasure among the population with the presence of American military and ongoing CIA operations within Pakistan’s borders.

These feelings are particular sensitive in the wake of the recent killing of two Pakistanis by a CIA contractor who claimed that the deceased were attempting to rob him.

The Pakistani Street has also grown tired of what they perceive as the over-involvement of the United States in their affairs over the last decade and are particularly unhappy with the constant drone attacks being conducted in their country by Americans – many resulting in the deaths of innocent civilians.

Were it to be known that the Pakistani military and government was assisting the United States in taking out Bin Laden, the government would not only face the potential of a popular uprising but would also be forced to deal with the displeasure of many of its Arab nation allies who would not approve of their cooperation.

The revelations come on the heels of today’s disclosure that the CIA had maintained a ’safe-house’ within eyesight of bin Laden’s Abbotabad compound since August, 2010 in order to keep an eye on the location. Again, Pakistani officials deny any knowledge of the CIA presence in the area.

Like so many of the difficulties faced by Pakistan in its awkward relationship with the United States, the government may have, again, found themselves in a ‘no win’ situation.

If the Pakistani government did know what was coming, the current disclosures may only be the tip of the iceberg as top members of the military are said to be angry over appearing to be incompetent in the eyes of the public
 
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